|
View previous topic :: View next topic
|
| Author |
Message |
Richard Haut
millennium club
Joined: 18 Apr 2004
Posts: 1099
Location: Nice, France
|
 Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 12:21 am Post subject: Americans: there's a message for you .... |
    |
|
| Quote: | My message to you is about the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and how to end them. I did not intend to speak to you about this because this issue has already been decided. Only metal breaks metal, and our situation, thank God, is only getting better and better, while your situation is the opposite of that.
But I plan to speak about the repeated errors your President Bush has committed in comments on the results of your polls that show an overwhelming majority of you want the withdrawal of American troops from Iraq. But he (Bush) has opposed this wish and said that withdrawing troops sends the wrong message to opponents, that it is better to fight them (bin Laden's followers) on their land than their fighting us (Americans) on our land.
I can reply to these errors by saying that war in Iraq is raging with no let-up, and operations in Afghanistan are escalating in our favor, thank God, and Pentagon figures show the number of your dead and wounded is increasing not to mention the massive material losses, the destruction of the soldiers' morale there and the rise in cases of suicide among them. So you can imagine the state of psychological breakdown that afflicts a soldier as he gathers the remains of his colleagues after they stepped on land mines that tore them apart. After this situation the soldier is caught between two hard options. He either refuses to leave his military camp on patrols and is therefore dogged by ruthless punishments enacted by the Vietnam Butcher (U.S. army) or he gets destroyed by the mines. This puts him under psychological pressure, fear and humiliation while his nation is ignorant of that (what is going on). The soldier has no solution except to commit suicide. That is a strong message to you, written by his soul, blood and pain, to save what can be saved from this hell. The solution is in your hands if you care about them (the soldiers).
The news of our brother mujahideen (holy warriors) is different from what the Pentagon publishes. They (the news of mujahideen) and what the media report is the truth of what is happening on the ground. And what deepens the doubt over the White House's information is the fact that it targets the media reporting the truth from the ground. And it has appeared lately, supported by documents, that the butcher of freedom in the world (Bush) had decided to bomb the headquarters of the Al-Jazeera in Qatar after bombing its offices in Kabul and Baghdad.
On another issue, jihad (holy war) is ongoing, thank God, despite all the oppressive measures adopted by the U.S Army and its agents (which is) to a point where there is no difference between this criminality and Saddam's criminality, as it has reached the degree of raping women and taking them as hostages instead of their husbands.
As for torturing men, they have used burning chemical acids and drills on their joints. And when they give up on (interrogating) them, they sometimes use the drills on their heads until they die. Read, if you will, the reports of the horrors in Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo prisons.
And I say that, despite all the barbaric methods, they have not broken the fierceness of the resistance. The mujahideen, thank God, are increasing in number and strength - so much so that reports point to the ultimate failure and defeat of the unlucky quartet of Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz. Declaring this defeat is just a matter of time, depending partly on how much the American people know of the size of this tragedy. The sensible people realize that Bush does not have a plan to make his alleged victory in Iraq come true.
And if you compare the small number of dead on the day that Bush announced the end of major operations in that fake, ridiculous show aboard the aircraft carrier with the tenfold number of dead and wounded who were killed in the smaller operations, you would know the truth of what I say. This is that Bush and his administration do not have the will or the ability to get out of Iraq for their own private, suspect reasons.
And so to return to the issue, I say that results of polls please those who are sensible, and Bush's opposition to them is a mistake. The reality shows that the war against America and its allies has not been limited to Iraq as he (Bush) claims. Iraq has become a point of attraction and restorer of (our) energies. At the same time, the mujahideen (holy warriors), with God's grace, have managed repeatedly to penetrate all security measures adopted by the unjust allied countries. The proof of that is the explosions you have seen in the capitals of the European nations who are in this aggressive coalition. The delay in similar operations happening in America has not been because of failure to break through your security measures. The operations are under preparation and you will see them in your homes the minute they are through (with preparations), with God's permission.
Based on what has been said, this shows the errors of Bush's statement - the one that slipped from him - which is at the heart of polls calling for withdrawing the troops. It is better that we (Americans) don't fight Muslims on their lands and that they don't fight us on ours.
We don't mind offering you a long-term truce on fair conditions that we adhere to. We are a nation that God has forbidden to lie and cheat. So both sides can enjoy security and stability under this truce so we can build Iraq and Afghanistan, which have been destroyed in this war. There is no shame in this solution, which prevents the wasting of billions of dollars that have gone to those with influence and merchants of war in America who have supported Bush's election campaign with billions of dollars - which lets us understand the insistence by Bush and his gang to carry on with war.
If you (Americans) are sincere in your desire for peace and security, we have answered you. And if Bush decides to carry on with his lies and oppression, then it would be useful for you to read the book "Rogue State," which states in its introduction: "If I were president, I would stop the attacks on the United States: First I would give an apology to all the widows and orphans and those who were tortured. Then I would announce that American interference in the nations of the world has ended once and for all."
Finally, I say that war will go either in our favor or yours. If it is the former, it means your loss and your shame forever, and it is headed in this course. If it is the latter, read history! We are people who do not stand for injustice and we will seek revenge all our lives. The nights and days will not pass without us taking vengeance like on Sept. 11, God permitting. Your minds will be troubled and your lives embittered. As for us, we have nothing to lose. A swimmer in the ocean does not fear the rain. You have occupied our lands, offended our honor and dignity and let out our blood and stolen our money and destroyed our houses and played with our security and we will give you the same treatment.
You have tried to prevent us from leading a dignified life, but you will not be able to prevent us from a dignified death. Failing to carry out jihad, which is called for in our religion, is a sin. The best death to us is under the shadows of swords. Don't let your strength and modern arms fool you. They win a few battles but lose the war. Patience and steadfastness are much better. We were patient in fighting the Soviet Union with simple weapons for 10 years and we bled their economy and now they are nothing.
In that there is a lesson for you.
|
- Usama bin Laden, January 2006.
_________________
Richard Haut has worked with the architectural profession for over 25 years and produces the weekly Richard Haut's Competitions, which has given architects details of many thousands of projects for which they can apply across Britain and Europe. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Ed Ziomek
Joined: 07 Jun 2005
Posts: 452
Location: Stamford, Connecticut
|
| Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 7:18 am Post subject: What Would Your Victims Say? |
|
|
Usama,
I hear you, you venomous scum. But I heard 200,000 dead before you. I heard 400 Muslims dead in the World Trade Center, and 2300 non Muslims at the Pentagon and WTC. I heard 300 dead Aussies and Bali Hindu and Muslims among them too. I heard 300 dead Russian children, you scum of the earth. 148+ Spaniards died in Madrid. London train, how many of the 50+ dead were Muslim? (doesn't matter to you?)
I heard 100,000 Afghanis and Iraqi civilians dead as an indirect result of your terrorism. Oh, I haven't mentioned the tens of thousands of wounded, or the 300 NY Firefighters and Emergency workers who are dieing an early death, or the countless car-bomb innocents in Iraq.
I hear Philipino dead too. Which innocent Muslims and non-Muslims will you kill next?
And you know what most would tell me? They had NOTHING TO DO with you!
I would have to believe 99.9% of all the dead had no clue they were enemies of anybody, not YOU, not America, certainly not Islam.
I know, you want to be King of the Muslim world. I would prefer you alive, and humiliated and revealed for the killer that you are. I want you hiding in a cave or hotel room somewhere, dreaming of what you could have been, while the Islamic and non-Islamic world hunts you down.
Islam is not about killing, is not about politics. One of the greatest dynasties of all time is the Islamic faith, in all its scientific and humanitarian advanced cultures, with worldwide travel 1000 years before Muhammed was alive I believe. Maybe not intentionally, but you became a mass murderer of innocent Islamic and non-Islamic men, women and honeymooners.
Your request for "truce"? I say it is a "signal" to attack and kill more innocent people. Why not kill al-Zarqawi first?
_________________
Ed Ziomek |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Richard Haut
millennium club
Joined: 18 Apr 2004
Posts: 1099
Location: Nice, France
|
| Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 3:58 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Osama bin Laden: Is it him? Almost certainly
By Robert Fisk
01/20/06 "The Independent" -- -- So why only on audio? Why no video tape? Is he sick? Yes, say the usual American "intelligence sources". It's the same old story: Osama bin Laden talks to us from the mouth of a cave, from within a cave, from a basement perhaps, from a tape almost certainly recorded down a telephone line from far away. Yesterday's message, broadcast as ever by al-Jazeera television, was a reminder that security - not sickness - decides his method of communication.
We invaded Afghanistan to find Bin Laden and we fight and die in Iraq to kill his supporters - yet still he eludes us, still he threatens us, still he taunts us.
How much longer can this nonsense go on? President Jacques Chirac warns that France - of all countries - might use nuclear weapons, if attacked. On whom, I wonder? America blows Pakistani children to pieces and claims it has killed five wanted men, including a bomb-maker. But there's absolutely no evidence. Bin Laden says that America will be attacked again unless it accepts a truce in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Weren't we supposed to be winning the "war on terror"? Oh no, the "experts" tell us, Bin Laden and al-Qa'ida are losing, that's why they want a truce. Some hope.
It's a game. Bin Laden has no intention of calling an end to his own war and nor has George Bush and nor has Tony Blair. The Bin Laden offer, almost certainly, is intended to be rejected. He wants Bush and Blair to refuse it. Then, after the next attack, will come the next audio tape. See what happens when you reject our ceasefire? We warned you. And we'll ask: is it him? So why no video tape? Never before in history have so many wanted men sent pictures and messages and video tapes out of the dark.
The irony, of course, is that Bin Laden is now partly irrelevant. He has created al-Qa'ida. His achievement - that word should be seen in context - is complete. Why bother hunting for him now? It's a bit like arresting the world's nuclear scientists after the invention of the atom bomb. The monster has been born. It's al-Qa'ida we have to deal with.
So we are told that America's security hasn't prevented an attack, that " operations" take time to prepare. "It is better not to fight the Muslims on their land," Bin Laden says. "We'd not mind offering you a truce that is fair in the long term ... so we can build Iraq and Afghanistan," he says. Forget for a moment the deep cynicism behind this message - deconstructing the Shia of Iraq seems to be one of the Iraqi insurgents' aims - it also reveals one of Bin Laden's old themes: the idea that these wars will bankrupt the United States.
"There is no shame in this solution because it prevents the wasting of billions of dollars ... to the merchants of war." These are almost the same words Bin Laden used to me when we last met. "The Americans will be bankrupted," he said, not realising that war primes the pumps of a superpower economy.
It is as if both "sides" in this conflict live on illusions. Mssrs Bush and Blair keep telling us things in Iraq are getting better, when we all know that they are getting worse. Anarchy has seized that entire country. American bodies coming home to the United States? Just don't let the press take photographs of the coffins. Bombs in London? Nothing to do with Iraq, Blair haplessly told us last July.
Now there's a website in Spanish about Iraq on the White House screens. Why? Because the Spaniards are interested in the war their army has left? Or because so many of the American soldiers dying in Iraq are Hispanics? And now we have Paul Bremer, America's equally hapless former pro-consul in Baghdad, telling us that those same Spanish troops contributed to the uprising in Najaf because they weren't performing their tasks in Iraq. More nonsense. What started the uprising was Bremer's own anger at an attack on him in a tiny Shia Muslim newspaper which he ordered to be closed (in an announcement of execrable Arabic). It was this which prompted Muqtada al-Sadr to fight the Americans.
And so we go on. Blame foreign fighters - even if 158,000 of them in Iraq happen to be wearing American uniforms - blame Syria, blame Iran. And blame Spain of course. Blame anyone who is not "with us".
In truth, it will need Iran and Syria to help get the US and Britain out of this shameful adventure. Yet what do we do? Raise the stakes on Iran by claiming that it intends to make nuclear weapons. And why Iran? Why not that infinitely more unstable Islamic state called Pakistan which has nuclear weapons? Because its dictator, President General Musharraf is on "our side". Why not attack North Korea, whose leader is more unstable than any Iranian cleric? Because he also has nuclear weapons.
In Afghanistan, the Taliban are slowly returning. Outside Kabul every woman wears a burqa. Weren't they supposed to have taken them off? Weren't women now "free" in Afghanistan? US troops are being killed at an increasing rate there. Weren't they supposed to have won? Now Canada has split its troops and sent a battalion to Kandahar to fight the Taliban and al-Qa'ida. What are the Canadians now doing in combat operations? What risks does this now pose for the Canadian nation which kept out of Iraq?
It was only a few months ago that Bin Laden was bombarding us with explanations for his movement's attacks. Why did no one ask, he said, why Sweden was not assaulted? And so, I suppose, we can indeed fear more attacks on the United States, more bombing raids, further chapters in the "war on terror".
And all the time we in the West fail to look for a way to end this "war" . How about some justice in the Middle East? How about lifting the blanket of injustice that has lain across the region for so many decades? Muslims there will probably like some of the democracy we say we're trying to export to them. They would also like human rights off our Western supermarket shelves.
But they would also like another kind of freedom - freedom from us. And this, it seems, we are not going to give them. So the war goes on. Stand by for more audio tapes, and more threats, and more death.
_________________
Richard Haut has worked with the architectural profession for over 25 years and produces the weekly Richard Haut's Competitions, which has given architects details of many thousands of projects for which they can apply across Britain and Europe. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Ed Ziomek
Joined: 07 Jun 2005
Posts: 452
Location: Stamford, Connecticut
|
| Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 6:59 pm Post subject: A Better Message for Americans: Khatami Speech... |
|
|
The following is an excerpt from a speech today from Mohammad Khatami, who I believe represents the true face of Islam, and 99.999% of all Islamic people I have met in America (which is increasingly Islamic).
One out of every four human beings in the world, arguably, call themselves Muslims. The friends I have are the most brilliant, caring human beings I have met, along with Hindu friends, African friends, American and Canadian friends, Cuban Americans. Only when politics and religion and tribal hatreds and finances get involved, then we have problems.
From Vijay Joshi, Associated Press Writer...
Khatami: Islamic World Ready for Change
KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia - The Islamic world is fed up with violence and extremism in the name of religion and is ready for an era of progressive, democratic Muslim governments, former Iranian President Mohammad Khatami said Friday.
Khatami said current conflicts between the West and Islam have created a situation that "can only see ever-escalating violence, whether in the form of war and occupation and repression, or in the form of terror and destruction."
"After about two centuries of dispute between tradition and modernity in the world of Islam (there is) a high level of mental preparation for the acceptance of a major transformation in the mind and lives of Muslims," Khatami said in a speech at an international conference on Islam and the
West.
Khatami is a noted Islamic scholar whose moderate policies in religion and politics, especially his view of the U.S., were opposed by hard-liners in Iran. He was Iran's leader from 1997 until June, when Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, an ultraconservative, became president."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060210/ap_on_re_mi_ea/malaysia_khatami
For me, this is a turning point, a sign of "good hope". The cynical side of me says... some people in government would rather have a radical crackpot Iranian to deal with, instead of a level-headed Iranian who speaks positively of a new world.
_________________
Ed Ziomek |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
SDR
millennium club
Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Posts: 1640
Location: San Francisco
|
| Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 8:23 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Thanks, Ed -- we need to hear this news now. And we need a broad view of what's really going on in the Muslim world. Are the fundamentalist fanatics a small and discredited but still vocal and dangerous faction -- or is there really widespread distrust and resentment of the West ?
David Brooks speaks of a hopelessly retrograde and anti-modern (anti-freedom) mindset at large, intent on destroying the Infidel; Mark Shields counters with a reminder of Western abuse of the non-Christian, non-Jewish majority in the Middle East, from at least the Crusades onward. . .
_________________
"I'm the commander . . . see, I do not need to explain why I say things. That's the interesting thing about being the president. Maybe somebody needs to explain to me why they say something, but I don't feel like I owe anybody an explanation." GWB |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Ed Ziomek
Joined: 07 Jun 2005
Posts: 452
Location: Stamford, Connecticut
|
| Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 7:32 am Post subject: You are right. |
|
|
Unfortunately, good guys finish last. I believe there is too much profit on the angry side of civilization, so I think the war pigs will try to crush Khatami from the inside, as well as the outside. Washington I truly believe is emboldened by
It is just like Northern Ireland. There were radical elements making money on the troubles. The Irish didn't want more war, but the troubles turned into drugs and guns and profits and .... as Peace became more plausible, and closer, somebody would throw a bomb... continue the carnage for profit sake, not religious sake.
All the previous tirades of Iran may have been to raise the cost of a barrell of oil towards $70 and $80, for all we know.
So we only have hope, reality and history tells us other things.
What is the least logical, least peaceful path? The near future I am afraid!
_________________
Ed Ziomek |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Richard Haut
millennium club
Joined: 18 Apr 2004
Posts: 1099
Location: Nice, France
|
| Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 11:58 am Post subject: |
|
|
Ed
I think that the parallel with Northern Ireland is spot on.
Both sides in the conflict are - in theory - from the same religion. To have tried to vilify the "Papists" on the one hand or the "Proddies" on the other on the basis of religion would have been a nonsense. The extremists on both sides were - and remain - the same. Whether or not one views the original aims of the Republicans as legitimate, the conflict itself was hijacked - and successive British governments were highly active in that hijacking.
Similarly, whether Middle Eastern nations need to become more open, modern, democratic, whatever one calls it, has become irrelevant when the extremists on both sides have their own agendas. Christian, Jewish or Muslim, the extremists do not represent their religions.
However, the scale of the crisis in the Middle East is much greater - let's not confuse those who seek to cause trouble from those who are defending their families from aggression.
In 1938 a young Jewish boy from Germany shot and killed a German (Nazi) Diplomat in Paris. He had every reason for aggression against the Nazis but everybody, even Jews, condemned what he had done.
Two years before, a Jew had assassinated the Nazi leader in Switzerland. From what I have been told by many Swiss, that assassination probably stopped Switzerland from becoming a Nazi ruled state.
The reality is that the rule of law matters. Our civlization - whether we call ourselves Christians, Jews, Muslims, or whatever - is a very thin veneer. It is not the army, or nuclear weapons, or the police that defends that civilization but the Judiciary.
In Britain and, to an extent, in America the thin grey line of the Judiciary has been breached.
Just remember that when Cindy Sheehan was evicted from Bush's speech for wearing a t-shirt, one of the main backers of Al-Queda was sitting in that same gallery as an honoured guest. Even the US intelligence services are saying that Bush lied about the alleged Al-Queda threat to L.A.
Iran has done nothing wrong (except making a few wild statements).
Use nuclear weapons on non-nuclear Iran and the world will change forever.
_________________
Richard Haut has worked with the architectural profession for over 25 years and produces the weekly Richard Haut's Competitions, which has given architects details of many thousands of projects for which they can apply across Britain and Europe. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
blogger
del.icio.us
digg
slashdot
