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csintexas
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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2009 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by csintexas

Mark, I am sure a lot of things happen in the town where that guy lives, could you please just stop making these kinds of stupid comments so that we can focus on what is important.

No one here is questioning the fact that there are problems with decks and even houses in general and also every other kind of structure ever built.

I think if your site was dedicated to these issues in general it would be better than what you currently have on there.

This again is a completely avoidable collapse of a residential deck. We need better safe guards to insure these decks are built properly.

Clearly some sort of visible attachment is needed. One that can be inspected before any covering material is allowed to be placed.

Inspectors need to be made better aware that this is a critical item probably requiring it's own separate inspection, permit and appropriate paperwork.


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csintexas
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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2009 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by csintexas

If this is something you are passionate about you might consider joining and being active in the International Code Council.

http://www.iccsafe.org/

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PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2009 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Checkpoint43

Here's an interesting story:
http://www.nytimes.com/1997/05/19/us/one-killed-and-18-hurt-in-balcony-collapse.html

Maybe Thomas Jefferson wasn't an architect?

Because we all know that this thread is proof that a collapsed porch is proof of this accusation.
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csintexas
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PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2009 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by csintexas

It was 175 years old so I guess it was a maintenance issue and not a construction defect.

The thing is I think we can find many cases of structures where architects where involved that have collapsed.

Doing a bit of searching -Illinois seems to be particularly susceptible to deck collapse even though they seem to also require architects. -Is there some link there Mark?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:10 pm    Post subject: Which designs require a stamp Reply with quoteFind all posts by cvallerie

Where can I find a document that says which designs require an architects stamp?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:37 pm    Post subject: Sketch Reply with quoteFind all posts by cvallerie

About 6 years ago I had a contractor start and finish my stairs before I finished the drawings and they fell. They did not connect the stair to the building. Someone got hurt. I was not liable because my drawings were not used. How ironic.

I was recently layed off so I have been working for myself and I am not licensed. Its hard here in Chicago because its so strict without a license. I have been looking at expiditing. That is why I was asking about design restrictions without a license (stairs, single family homes, garages, sheds, etc...). any info would help

ABOUT DRAWING IN BLOG: I have been on the phone all week trying to set up a permit review in Chicago DCAP and it can take a day to two months bacause there are so many projects to so few project managers and building inspectors.

And heaven forbid if your project should have to go to court. So yes, the stair attachments should have been inspected before they were covered but the inspector may have had 20 other buildings on his or her list.

Every citiy in the US has a budget that is tight and things are going to get over looked and people are going to get hurt. Thats bad. That is the cost of bad economics. The poor pay. Its going to get worse. As contractors and architecs and good Americans lets do our part and put in %110. I thing thats all we can do. This web sit and contacting our authorities and making our voices heard is the first step. I make a lot of noise in my community.
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cvallerie



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:49 pm    Post subject: Deck Collapse Reply with quoteFind all posts by cvallerie

For the record, porch deck collapse is nothing new. New York, Detroit, Jersey, and serveral othe large cities and I'm sure several other small cities have the same problem from time to time. The media simply hypes it up to make it seem as if it happens every 5min. If you hire a bad contractor and use bad materials you are going to have problems.
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phansford



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 4:57 am    Post subject: Re: Which designs require a stamp Reply with quoteFind all posts by phansford

cvallerie wrote:
Where can I find a document that says which designs require an architects stamp?


Typically - each state has it's own regulations. Each state as an agency that regulates the registration of architects (and other design professionals). The rules and regulations are typically found at the website for each state agency. Most states call the agency "Architects Board of Examiners" or whatever particular design professional that is being regulated. Engineers have their own agency - typically.

Some local jurisdictions will have their own regulations and you need to call the local building department for clarification. Also - some homeowner associations and other private organizations can require licensed professionals and you need to review this with the client.

In other words, there is no easy answer.

As far as working in Chicago.... good luck. I am sure the bureaucracy is huge and slow. According to a project manager for a local construction company here who spent 4 years in Chicago - you also need to have some cash and paper bags on hand to get things approved. You might want to locate and befriend a builder who knows how to navigate the permitting process.
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