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Ed Ziomek



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 9:26 am    Post subject: few questions Reply with quoteFind all posts by Ed Ziomek

experiencing architecture...

Just for fun, what nationality are you, if you don't mind me asking?

You have a habit of repeating yourself, and your quotes, and other quotes to the point of spamming.

Where did the Rothchilds come into this discussion, or is this an anti-semitic ploy? And you know who owns so much of America, right now, don't you, the Saudis and the Kuwaitiis!

What kind of text formatting are you using, which product? Many of the posts from various new individuals are being mangled in the identical fashion.

Note, aren't we all related to each other, with Abraham, and 10,000 other genetic cousins since him?

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by ExperiencingArchitecture

It would be sad to see if some here are actually defenders of those who have been creating this mess and have created it in the past, since now the attention is being diverted towards questioning the information here presented. This tendency to question is natural, given the circumstances and due to the fact that most are the product of the society we live in. The events which have led up to this point call many to seek for alternative ways to communicate their ideas, as has been chosen in this case. Repeating a quote, because it simply was not read, to make a point is valid. There is no reason for alarm, particularly when again it is being ignored and the issues not addressed. By the way, this is not anti-semitic ploy. Are there some among us in this post who are in some way connected now to the .R.o.t.h.c.h.i.l.ds? Mr. Ziomec, You seem to question the relationship between this group and the .F.e.d...w.o.r.ld... b.an.kers., despite all the evidence presented to demonstrate the obvious link. Interesting. Only a little disappointing. There is thus a need to deal with issues on an impersonal level, particularly since many have vested interests in maintaining the current system of m.onetary .s.l.avery which has instilled itself on America. Truly it is only those who are outside the .s.ys.tem who are able to see into what is happening. (Such as a recent poster from England who knows what is happening in Europe and in America). About the formatting of the text, this is often modified within this community site itself, as text symbols and notes are inserted after each post, apparently for tagging or maybe a glitch of the software. (Such as when colons are substituted for garbled symbols). There are other reasons as well, for a purpose, such as avoiding web spiders and the like. In effect, and to summarize, it will be more profitable to focus on the issues, rather then divert our attention to small issues or towards other member's postings. Otherwise the issues will become lost in the maze of confusion we are already seeing by the present created .f.in.ancial.. c.ris.is.

And, we may be all related, but not all are among those who have a desire to .c.on.tr.ol.. others .ru.thl.essly by imposing .ol.ig.arc.hies of power on the world, devising .mon.et.ary... ..cr.ash.es.. to as to strengthen their grip on the world, as has been demonstrated. It truly appears some are not reading the evidence being presented, but rather are turning to question the identity or character of those who bring about the information into the limelight. It is the agenda of many to do so, and is therefore no surprise to see the same happen here. As has been pointed out, not only are those .wo.rld.. ..b.ank...ers.. t.h.ie..v.es., but they are .m.u...r.de.re.rs... as well. Would you rather give credit to these by questioning any and all who expose their .c.ri.me.s?
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Ed Ziomek



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 11:38 am    Post subject: Topic? Reply with quoteFind all posts by Ed Ziomek

Experience...

Any outside the box ideas to solve the financial crisis?

That's the topic. Are you presenting solutions to the question, problems, or family history, or racial divides?

Most of your answers are valid, but off topic, in my opinion.

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ExperiencingArchitecture



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by ExperiencingArchitecture

It is all inter-related. The current .cr.is.is is just another repetition of history. (By the way, some see history functioning as a large fractal wave, where past events repeat themselves.) Thus, it is the same power brokers who are devising the .c.ri.sis and again, re-creating the same scenario over and over again, so as to strengthen their power grip. (Causing, again, and again, the .c.ra.sh.ing of other .ba.nks so as to strengthen the grip of a few banks). Thus, the .fi.na.nc.ial.. .c.ri.sis has at it's core a skewed .s.y.st.em bent on creating .c.r.i.sis so as to benefit a select few. Please have a look again at the other post -->>

(And my last post there) -->>

http://fireside.DesignCommunity.com/topic-22822.html

A careful reading of the last post should connect the dots.

And don't believe it when some say all are hurting. Those making private commercial loans, or those dealing with housing repo's are doing booming business right now as we speak. They are thus making a .k.i.lling on taking away American homes, thus robbing them of their investments, in a purposeful, carefully contrived crisis they have created. The link above explains it all.

We may have great ideas to solve the crisis, and yet still the fundamental underlying cause behind it all is the den of .r.ob.be.rs.. who control the upper echelons of the ..w.or.ld.....b.an..king......s.y.st.em..as has been clearly explains in the various posts. Thus, if information is being repeated, it is for a reason - so that people will really open their eyes and see what is going on before us and what is the real cause of all this crisis.

The link at You Tube (as posted within the link above) tells it all.

Here is the link, again --->>>

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LMM5ET36jWA&feature=related
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Ed Ziomek



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 3:34 pm    Post subject: True, true, true. Reply with quoteFind all posts by Ed Ziomek

Sensei...

Too true. Available technologies being used in other countries, which are not used here!

And in too many communities, do you know how much we pay landfills to bury garbage?

$16 a cubic yard! And those landfills will have to be dug up in 50 years to be reprocessed! Horrifying waste.

But let me add another 10-worder... and this one may be controversial...

Allow Foreign ownership of American real estate, Promise: conditional citizenship.

With two steps of immigration reform,
1. legitimizing foreign workers already who register and pay taxes

2. Conditional citizenship on the foreign investment into American real estate (bring foreign currency into the United States)

The currency flow is overseas, not over here.

The drive to become an American citizen is huge.

Make changes to spark the real estate market here, using foreign monies to purchase properties.

Your thoughts?

And can you imagine $16 a cubic foot, to bury money?!!!

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by sensibledesigner

Right ! Let's stop burying our money into buying foreign petroleum and in the earth, and use our brains to make the system work in our favor !

Foreign ownership of American real estate? From what I understand, this has already been occuring in recent decades to a significant degree.

But if we expand this, we are essentially selling out America to the foreigners, in my opinion.

And legalizing illegals around America is only encouraging further illegal immigration. Not even to mention the hidden North American Alliance that has a secret agenda to made one North American currency and integrate Canada, US and Mexico into one block, in a covert manner that most are not aware of. And what about that secret deal Bush did without consulting anyone that allowed Mexican trucks access into American soil? Look how much controversy that already has generated ! Bush doing so many things without consulting the American people, neither Congress. And now destroying our economy for us. So why encourage this criminal behaviour and secretive negotiations without consent of Congress and the American people? If we proceed with a plan such as suggested, we are only going to de-patriotize America until we reach the point that American no longer exists, and no longer do we have our own constitution. This is where we are headed. So personally am against such ideas of opening up American borders and extending citizenship in exchange for owning property. Rather then doing this, hand the pools of real estate over to foreign investment firms in exchange for money. Let them hold the titles until America re-builds, and then sell them as a capitalized profit in better times. Sell them participation in new energy plants to explore this new technology as well, and convert our trash into oil. Them export this oil to the rest of the world and leave the profits in America ! We could be rich in the process of converting all our trash and the world's trash into oil! Can you imagine how much trash there is just in Canada, America and Mexico? How much money can we make producing oil from this?
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infotofly



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by infotofly

It is great to see everyone doing their very best, despite all the forum .h.ar.as.sm.ent... and .a.bu.se.. (And virtual k.i.l.l.ing of members)

Many a thanks to all participating and trying to make this world a better place.

Some just do not see it.

Again and again we place our posts with the highest visitors counts, and the greatest content, and some keep coming back only to .k.ill it all, evaporating new users at an alarming rate. (Some may know what we are referring to). Ungrateful bunch the world is, one would think. What do they have to show for gratitude when they are getting all the clicks and visitors? What do they give back in return but more contempt and .h.a.tr.ed?

However, may the .w.orld. be a better place with all that has been suggested and contributed here, despite the fact that some still continue to despise our ideas. Yet we do it not for them. We do it for the .w.orld, so that in the end, it may be a better place.

Long live .f.re.ed.om.. and .d.em.oc.racy.
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Ed Ziomek



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 12:37 am    Post subject: sidenotes Reply with quoteFind all posts by Ed Ziomek

intofly... there have been several new identities on this website, with identical mangled inconsistently typed entries, and some scary entries too...

Such as ...

..a.s.s.as.s.in.ation.... t.a.c.t.i.c.s.......b.i.o.m.o.l.e.c.u.l.e.s..., ...mu.rd.er..
...at.ta.cki.ng... .h.a.tr.ed k.i.l.l.ing .k.ill it all.h.ar.as.sm.ent... and .a.bu.se..
.S..u.p.r.e.m.e.. ....S.u..p.r.e.m.e... .G..o.d....G.o.d...G..o.d.....G.o.d... .p.er.se..c.u..te..
b.a.n.ks, fi.nan.cial institutions &
.F.e.d.e.r.a.l.. R.e.s.e..r.ve.. ..S.y..s.te.m.
..Fe.der.al.. .Re.ser.ve.. S.yst.em..
...F..e..d..e.ra..l...R.e.ser.ve.. s.ys.tem
.Ro.th.chi.lds... .Ro.th.ch.il.ds's
.st.atu.te.. of ..lim.ita.tions.. .co.ns.pir.acy.. t.heo.ri.sts ..c.ou.rt...
b.anks, le.nd.ing.. i.nst.itu.tions and c.e.ntr.al.. .b.a.n.king..
.g.o.v.er.nm.ent G.o.ver.nm.ent
.fore.clos.ure .de.fe.nse ..be.de.vils l.e.nders ...fore.cl.os.ure .fo.rec.lose..
'Angel' of .fore.clos.ure .de.fe.nse ..be.de.vils l.e.nders
m.or.tga.ges have been .se.cur.it.ized
.mo.rtg.ag.e-free m.or.tga.ge... free
r.o.b.be.r.. .b.anks.. m.or.tga.ge... free .f.re.e...
.l.i.e.s. ..l.ie..s..
....c.on.tr.ol......c.o.n..t.ro.l.. ....c.on.tr.ol..... .....a.bu.si..n.g.., .a.cu.ss.in.g..,.e.xc.lu.di.ng.. .a.bus.ive..
.....f.re.e..do.m.......f.re.ed.om.... .f.re.edo.m... .....f.re.e..do.m.....
an.ti.cip.ate... as.si.gn.ment.. of the .de.bt., she said with a .sc.off.
...c.r.it.icize..
"It's all about I.D." or something.

Number one, if you are on medication, I could understand. I have met individuals like yourself, who speak exactly like you do, and they have medical issues, and I can understand that, I have issues too.

Number two, I think you are using several identities here, am I correct?

Number three, usually no one believes you, right? Well I understand you completely, you are a brilliant human being, you are passionate in what you believe, and send me a message if you want, via the private message system.

But most important, you seem to be using some high level trigger words in your text, which are alarmist to many, ok? killing. murder. etc.

Then let me ask you a straight question, are you sending code to someone else, or is that my own paranoia? Your key words are mis-spelled in a regular-irregular pattern, and that scares me too.

And who is Number One? Remember that 60s show?

I'm a wimp, I scare easy.

Thanks for any response, and take it easy!

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by infotofly

Hello Ed,

Thanks for words. No need to worry - am just a normal person as you are who loves to do research, as you do. But I do appreciate your compliments. I can see you are brilliant yourself and should be a scholar. Now, in regards to your question - no special encoded message or sending of codes no. It is just that the system is triggered to block users from posting specific words, in my understanding, and that is why some of the words appear encoded. I am not Mr. Da Vinci. Nor am I paranormal or on any medication, nor do I have multiple personalities etc etc as some would have you believe in the past, based on what they have posted. (It all started with that PC guy making all kinds of fa lse accusations against others, and apparently got himself b anished in doing so. Others have come along based on his false ideas and as a result come up with false ideas also. This I call cross-contamination based on initial f alse claims. Their mis-conceptions and tarnishing of other members has created this effect now, since they have made many such strange statements regarding others.

I cannot say nobody believes anything. It is just that many are afraid to take a position on issues, out of fear of recrimination or of being excluded from the group, when their ideas do not match the status-quo.

So no need for alarm Ed. Everyone here is just a normal human being as you who would like to live their life in peace and help others in the process to find a way of Discovery.

I would love to exchange ideas with you as well, and perhaps the forum is a little restrictive, since some may interpret things a negative way.

Take care.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by infotofly

And a note - since you came in late in many discussions or perhaps were not participating in all, is seems extreme to pick out words like that, and particularly ones that seem most alarmist, and paste them into your post. One would need to read all the discussions to get an idea. There is much information being posted to demonstrate some of the terminology you picked out and high-lighted. You picked out thus many words from articles that others wrote, and ones that seem the most extreme, and also are not my words but from other writers.

Take care. Keep up the good work yourself, your research as well is admirable.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 8:10 am    Post subject: OK. Thank you. Reply with quoteFind all posts by Ed Ziomek

infotofly... OK, thank you.

No, I am not brilliant, but I have this obsessive weird thing about noticing things, like horrifying contractual phrases, in super small print, stuck on page 50 of a 70-page contract, things like... "We would never do - nice flowers -, except in cases we fill like doing - nice flowers -". So people might call that "attention to detail", and I call it..."I have been screwed too many times."

And I forgot to mention, Dan Brown of Da Vinci Code, who first alerted me to the burying of messages within paintings, hence my amateur discoveries.

Back on topic...

Ten words to save America, idea five:

Develop Alaska-Canada for mineral resources.

Note: Russia is a vast mineral empire. But Alaska and Canada are most definitely the identical geologic mirror image of Russia.

Russia attempted to claim the floor of the Arctic Ocean as their own. Good move! Why not have America try the same, on our side of the pond?

And why not ourselves for all our coastline areas?

If Russia has oil, Alaska and Canada have oil. Ditto diamonds, gold, copper, and 50 other mining possibilities.

If you want volcanic mining, the Aleutians are your bet, and certainly fish farming should be expanded.

Massively develop Alaska and Canada, in a safe, green manner.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 8:08 pm    Post subject: I am on Obama's Team! Reply with quoteFind all posts by Ed Ziomek

Interesting news ... and quotes...

On "the Rock"...."The best thing this guy can do is restore optimism!"

"All steel for any new stimulus plans should be US steel, revitalizing the American steel industry here in the states...and stop sending our metal scrap overseas!"

On the technical front...Bloomberg.com via Yahoo News"
"Obama Moves to Counter China With Pentagon-NASA Link"
http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20090102/pl_bloomberg/aovrno0oj41g

I agree, the team is starting its steam roll! So much of "future world" is tied into satellite communications and GPS!

And let us not forget, the Putin folks are brilliant, and they are rich, and they are returning to Stalinism...the spam people, we love you! spam government... please go easy! No more cold war!

Putin announced a new nationalized GPS satellite system, just like we have.

Satellite wars, space wars, probably.

Let's not forget the untapped oceans... so many vast opportunities for manufacturing, mining, energy, job creation, that can return profits almost immediately... lets not forget the oceans!

Tune Wars...

Russkies...Blestyashchie - Palmy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdjfMMBZQl4&feature=related

1978 Double Trouble from Jersey...in Cleveland!
Southside Johnny and Bruce Springsteen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXB_0wvLUm8

It's a Tie.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by csintexas

Do you really expect us to believe you are not crazy usarender? No one else around here has to type in 'code' and constantly change their identity.

You have some serious problems that you need to be aware of. That being said you seem like a nice enough person and while you may be a little insane you are at least generally entertaining.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by infoknowledge

And the ideas being posted are all coherent -->>

http://www.designcommunity.com/forums/topic-23104.html

As has been noted, there is a need for periods and what appears to be encoding, for the sake of avoiding mechanisms designed to trap or trigger certain words, thus preventing from posting content with these words. Thus, the dis-jointed information becomes difficult to follow. (Particularly when a main previous link entitled "The F_lee_cing of America" was entirely removed from this forum.) So in the carefully created link here, it has been gathered in a coherent manner and demonstrates the perfectly logical, sound basis for it's formulation -->>

http://infoisfreedom.freeblogit.com/2009/01/03/what-are-the-root-causes-behind-the-financial-crisis/

This, not the formulation of a lunatic or one engaged in hiding information under some type of secret encoding, as has been suggested. Rather, it it's stated in plain clear English, no longer restricted by the mechanisms which up to this point have prevented it from being presented.

And again, no constructive responses are being presented on the ideas suggested originally, except those made at the start by Ed. After this, the barrage of new ideas and storm of thought has suffered disturbance due to erroneous ideas and waves of criticism on the part of some.

A call is being made thus for more constructive feedback and a general call also for people to read the article and become aware of the issues we all are facing as a Nation.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by djswan

W.a.r.n.i.n.g a bad batch of l.i.q.u.i.d.u.n.i.v.e.r.s.e is circulating around this forum.

I am now convinced that all drugs should be legalized and taxed to keep quality standards.

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