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jp2123
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 Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 6:01 pm Post subject: New house design |
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It has been a long time since i post here but i guess i need to with this one. Anyways im a senior that is planning on studying architecture...
This design is not close to finish and i need some feedback. I just did things that will give the idea of what is gooing to go over there. The living room is going to be bigger and not with just one sofa and there is other things to but i guess i really need some feedback from you guys. thanks
and btw this is the first time that i do a house from the inside out, i used a free 3d thing so is not really good.
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lekizz
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:55 am Post subject: |
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Well, sorry, I wish I could say it was an improvement on your previous efforts. As you can see, if you design only from the inside out (and only on a clunky 3D programme) you just get a lot of boxes stuck onto one another.
When architects (or any other residential designer) create designs for houses, they work both from the outside in and the inside out. And top to bottom, back to front, landscape to site, site to house etc etc. And it is normally more productive and successful to start with a pencil and paper, draw quick sketches, roughly measured drawings, plans, sections, then start on the computer model once you have a reasonable idea of your scheme.
Maybe you should try and make a model of your own home (maybe you've done so already) which will help you understand the dimensions of building elements and the relationships of the internal spaces to the external. |
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pune architect
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:52 am Post subject: Pune Architect |
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Not sure what you are trying to do. If it only a practice design or one for real
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jp2123
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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| It just a practice design and L. thanks for the feedback, And yeah I have already done my house lol. But I will try to start making more on paper instead of using that program because a lot of the things that i really wanted to do I could not be possible in the program i used.(Which I have started already) *Not for this one. |
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phansford
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| Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 5:53 am Post subject: |
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I think you are doing fine..... I can't remember if I posted on any of your designs or not. If memory serves me correct, you want to go to architecture school.
Have we talked about books you should be reading or other things you should be doing to prepare for architecture school. Because here is the shocker...... they really don't care if you can use Sketchup or CAD. It's good stuff to put in your entrance portfolio, but you need to add some other types of art. Drawings, painting, photography.... things to show your artistic abilities.
You might enjoy reading The Place of Houses by Charles Moore.
You should also go visit as many "important" building near you. New, old and in between. Photograph them, sketch them, tour them. Find articles about them and read what makes them important. Visit active public spaces where people interact. How does the built environment affect how they interact and move through space?
Start to move outside of your comfort zone of designing houses. Find the local chapter of the AIA (Assuming you live in the US) and participate in their High School Design Competition . (Click on Student Design in the header menu.)
Keep up the good work. |
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lekizz
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| Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:37 am Post subject: |
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Hope you understand, jp, I was only trying to be honest. But I have looked back at some of my early projects at college and remember we started by doing exactly the same thing as you. Internal spaces are an excellent place to start - for example, I remember we had to design a simple art gallery to 'frame' a dozen famous works of art. We all created interesting spaces for each work of art and then, basically, stuck them together in a jumble. I felt very proud of my gallery but really it was just alot of boxes stuck together 
Charles Moore was an excellent 'off message' American architect of the 1960's and 70's and he is well worth looking at. He was certainly very good at giving attention to the insides of his houses, creating clever places to eat, rest, dream, party, look out etc using simple methods. That is something you could ask yourself - if you could make a simple hut for yourself, then how would you do it, where would it be, how would it the spaces work, what simple or imaginative things could you do to make it special to your needs, or reflect your personality... |
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jp2123
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| Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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phansford thanks for the feedback. I actually draw a lot (well not a lot but like one dawing each week or two, even though i started just like a month or two ago) And about the photographies I actually went to washington last year for a class trip and i took a lot of cool pictures and now thanks to your idea i will try and sketch some of those buildings. About the book, yeah you guys told me about some books the only bad thing was that everytime i went to a library i couldnt find any of the books. I will try and search for that last one.
Actually phansford this is a drawing that i sended with my application to the college of architecture where i wanted to go. Tell me what you think
(I had to do a still life with 5 different objects)
Lekizz is ok, and i actually think i partially did a research paper where i mentioned charles Moore, i will try to look at that. And thanks for all the tips, I wont get mad or offended if you say something about the design, I mean thats the only way i can become better i know almost nothing about basic architectural structures and this has actually help me a lot even if it doesnt show in my last design lol. Right now im doing a new one and I'm using your tip of thinking about from the inside out, outside in etc... I started sketching the building in paper and started on the program, I will try to post a picture sometime this weekend to get some more feedback.
Thanks for everything, any other tip just post it please |
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phansford
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| Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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| jp2123 wrote: | Actually phansford this is a drawing that i sended with my application to the college of architecture where i wanted to go. Tell me what you think
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Looks fine for a high schooler - but keep working on your skills.
Remember - Practice makes perfect. |
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jp2123
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| Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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| thanks and yeah i will remember that |
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Madimel
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| Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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| jp, the work you did is a great start, in my opinion, you should focus on your curiosity and enthusiasm for the profession. The product will come over time. The sketch you posted could be improved, but it is still much better than the abilities of many who work in architectural offices. A book that you should read is "Architect? A Candid Guide to the Profession" by Roger Lewis, so you can get a better scope of what rewards and burdens that comes with this field. |
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jp2123
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| Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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| thanks for the advice. I will see if i can find that book. |
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nanrehvasconez
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JP, Google SketchUp is not a good media to learn architectural design of any kind, a Cambridge Planning Pad, a pencil, and a good eraser will serve you best, after you have sketched by hand and perfected your floor plan, then you could try CAD, and also read a lot of books available in the library, architectural/decoration books are very expensive, it will serve you well to learn how to use color in your renderings.
good luck
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mx2
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I think the big picture is being missed here...JP you've been detailing a project based on intuitive skill and spent a good deal of effort on interior finishes and detail. Architecture is more about the experience of the spaces via circulation, and less about what color is on the wall. Step one is to learn history and philosophy of design. But if you must draw, then start by drawing what you see already built. The most famous architects have visited the old ruins of Europe and drew what they saw, replicating how spaces were built, taking note of sun orientation, relationships of the spaces and their uses, materials, shapes, views, etc, etc....
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lekizz
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| Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 3:53 am Post subject: |
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| He's been told this many times before but it doesn't seem to sink in |
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phansford
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| Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 5:20 am Post subject: |
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| lekizz wrote: | | He's been told this many times before but it doesn't seem to sink in |
I think he understands.
Unfortunately, there are not many "European" ruins here in the states for someone to visit. And our architectural hertiage in not really appreciated by the normal person. Unfortunately its easier to bulldoze a building rather than maintain/renovate it for an adaptive use.
Most American towns don't have some ancient medievel building that has been treasured over the years. Unfortunately, our towns have the "White Elephant" that was on old hotel , masonic temple, odd fellows hall or old dry good store that has not been properly maintained or used in over 80 years. And the cost to renovate is huge. It takes alot of private/public investment. (Investment I support - but in not popular with some people).
Interesting sidebar.... the City of Piqua is selling the tax credits to help fund the Fort Piqua Hotel Renovation..... which I find extremely interesting. MX2 - I am sure your familar with this funding technique.
I have been doing high school career fairs the last few years. (My boys are in high school.... so I somehow get volunteered  ) Many of the kids come up and say they are interested in architecture and they are taking the CAD class at the High School. At which point, I say that is fine, but taking Art classes is much more important and that colleges are not interested in CAD drawings. They are also surprised (or least their parents) when I tell than that they don't need calculus - just geometry and trig. I also tell them to take History, philosphy (sp), and social studies classes.
So the issue isn't this one student, but the teachers and administrators at our local high schools who know absolutely nothing about our profession and push kids into CAD and Calculus. They (the adult educators) have no concept what the difference is between Architecture and Engineering.
And just to be clear...... how many of us actually had a sketch book in high school and went around drawing buildings in our town........ Its is a great idea and I wish I had done it.... but let's all be honest here. The truth is we are all giving JP2123 the advise we wish we had been given. So let's not be too harsh. |
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