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hanihamad



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 12:04 am    Post subject: help ragarding the palestinian cause Reply with quoteFind all posts by hanihamad

Below you will find two letters of support one is addressed to the president of the united states, the other is addressed to the vice president of the united states. This is an initiative proposed by the arabs against discrimination act and supported by well known arab journalist at Ahram Ibrahim Hegazy so it is in no way illegal or considered harmful.

I urge you to do the world three favours:

1. Forward this message to all your contacts simply by clicking on all the catagories in the favourite contacts to the right.

2. Cut and paste these two letters of support and email them to the given addressess.
Feel free to add your own sentences, personalize the message, or even completely write a new letter. This is definatly encouraged as it shows personal involvement in the issue. if you do not have the time at least send them as is.

3. Visit this site for more initiative concerning the arab palestinian issue http://www.aad-online.org/. if you lost the letters and wish to participate I have these letters posted on my website www.hanihamad.netfirms.com under the link palestine. Feel free to download them and send them.

Here are the letters:

1. Letter to the president send to this address president@whitehouse.gov

‏Mr.W.Bush, President of the United States of America
Along with millions of egyptian and arabian people, I am extremely displeased to learn that
you had made guarantees to Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon regarding the basic rights of the Palestinian people, but has concerns their land and their and our community as a whole,
Mr.President, in offering these guarantees, you will further dispossess five million Palestinian refugees who were unjustly expelled from their homes, and you will help Israel consume whatremains of Palestinian land. The Palestinians are demanding - and I as an egyptian support this demand - their own land, occupied in June 1967. These lands represent less than half of the
territory granted to the Palestinians under the 1947 United Nations partition plan.
‏Mr. President, your guarantees to Mr.Sharon have inflicted a grave injustice on the rights of the Palestinian people, and they represent a major obstacle to any attempt to resolve the Israeli-Arabconflict through negotiations.These guarantees undermine the Arab public's trust in international law and will undoubtedly further provoke the anger of the Arab World -our world. In offering these guarantees, you have given greater credibility to extremist arguments that renounce a peaceful settlement and call for the use of force. The guarantees have further damaged the image of the United States in the Arab world much worse than you can possibly imagine.
Mr.President, we respectfully ask that you retract these guarantees and offer no further guarantees that would impinge on what the United Nations describes as the in alienable rights of Palestinian people.‏ This will restore confidence in the possibility of negotiated settlement and contribute to a just and comprehensive peace based on the recognition of rights. This is the only way to maintain the stability and security in the Middle East, an objective which serves the interest of all peoples concerned.

with my best wishes,

Your Name




2. Letter to the vice president vice.president@whitehouse.gov

‏Mr. Cheney, Vice President of the United States of America

Along with millions of egyptian and arabian people, I am extremely displeased to learn that
the president of the United Stated had made guarantees to Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon regarding the basic rights of the Palestinian people, but has concerns their land and their and our community as a whole,

Mr. vice President, in offering these guarantees, America will further dispossess five million Palestinian refugees who were unjustly expelled from their homes, and you will help Israel consume whatremains of Palestinian land. The Palestinians are demanding - and I as an egyptian support this demand - their own land, occupied in June 1967. These lands represent less than half of the territory granted to the Palestinians under the 1947 United Nations partition plan.

‏Mr. vice President, America's guarantees to Mr.Sharon have inflicted a grave injustice on the rights of the Palestinian people, and they represent a major obstacle to any attempt to resolve the Israeli-Arabconflict through negotiations. These guarantees undermine the Arab public's trust in international law and will undoubtedly further provoke the anger of the Arab World -our world. In offering these guarantees, America has given greater credibility to extremist arguments that renounce a peaceful settlement and call for the use of force. The guarantees have further damaged the image of the United States in the Arab world much worse than you can possibly imagine.
Mr. vice President, we respectfully ask that you ask the president to retract these guarantees and offer no further guarantees that would impinge on what the United Nations describes as the in alienable rights of Palestinian people.‏ This will restore confidence in the possibility of negotiated settlement and contribute to a just and comprehensive peace based on the recognition of rights. This is the only way to maintain the stability and security in the Middle East, an objective which serves the interest of all peoples concerned.

with my best wishes,
Your name
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Richard Haut

In July 2002 I sent out copies of a procurement notice published by the UK Department for International Development (DFID).

It was for urgent reconstruction and repairs at the Jenin Refugee Camp.

The organisation that undertook that contract was the UK's Crown Agents. Paul Hook, consultant for the Crown Agents, was shot and killed by Israeli snipers.

The Israelis tried to pretend that there were gunmen in the UN compound where Hook was killed - the UN investigated and said that there were not. The Israelis tried to pretend that Hook had a weapon - he did not.

The "agreement" between Sharon and Bush over property which neither own is a sick joke. On the one hand, the most deceitful President in US history, from a family that actively and willingly financed and supported the Nazis into 1943 (after Pearl ? Hell, it was after Corregidor), and on the other a corrupt politician (who has had a little problem over his colleague's drug dealing attempts with Hezbollah), with a history of child-murder (it was the Israelis who found Sharon to be responsible for the crushing to death of women and children in Sabra and Shatilla).

It was Ehud Barrak who said that Israel had "left the society of civilised nations". The Bush-Sharon agreement has slammed that door shut - Sharon has walked into a trap.

Bush and Cheney are war-mongers - their demented NeoCon theories involve deliberately inflaming the Middle East - and the Bush-Sharon agreement has turned every Israeli, man, woman and child into America's human shields.

Curiously Sharon may lose the Gaza vote.

Israel should by now be one of the most important countries in the Middle East. Instead it is a country that uses heavy weaponry to murder a near-blind quadraplegic in his wheelchair as he comes from prayers - any self-respecting Jew saw the picture as an elderly Rabbi murdered by the Nazis as he came from Temple.

Bush, with Sharon, is pissing on the dead of the Holocaust.

Moishe Safdie designed a city most of which is to be built on Palestinian land - these barbarians have only one fear. The honest professional. The honest judge, the honest general, the honest diplomat, the honest accountant - the honest architect. The crawlers, those who are anxious to trample on the still warm cadavres of children to obtain some work, disgrace their fellow professionals and demean their purpose. Remember that the US civilian "contractors" killed in Iraq - and it was the US that started parading dead bodies around (so less snivelling when others do it too) - were hired mercenaries working for concentration-camp designers Kellogg Brown and Root.

Sharon's crawling to Bush may destroy Israel.

And America ? The "war on terror" does not exist, it is a fake - and yet America is set to lose a war created from its own fantasies.

America is a democracy and if the people do not stop their vigilante KKK President, then the world will have to presume that they support him.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 8:22 am    Post subject: israeli anti semitism what it really is Reply with quoteFind all posts by hanihamad

There is nothing more unreasonable and contradictory than the existence of Jewish anti-Semites. For 2,000 years, the Jewish people have suffered from racist hatred, and they continue to suffer. This racism has been manifested not only in humiliation, vilification, and scorn, but in systematic acts of murder, starting in the Roman period after the Bar-Kochva rebellion, and including the Inquisition trials in western Europe, the Cossack pogroms in Eastern Europe, the Nazi Holocaust, and the constant fear that this tragedy may not be the last vestige of anti-Semitism threatening the Jewish people. Despite the apparent contradiction, is it possible that a Jewish public has appeared in Israel that embraces and nurtures racism, particularly—and how difficult it is to write this—against all Arabs?
The Hebrew Encyclopedia defines anti-Semitism as “any manifestation of hatred of Jews wherever they may be.” Anti-Semitism is racism against Jews. Thus anti-Arabism is any manifestation of hatred of Arabs wherever they may be.
The expression “the Arab mind” has been the subject of exhaustive discussion. Because Israelis consider themselves an enlightened, open, contemporary, liberal nation, there is a fine layer of political probity, a discomfort with revealing the emotional, irrational forces at play in the racist view of Arabs. Officially, many Israelis see Arabs as rivals, legitimate enemies in a conflict over a small piece of land. In turn, they deserve a piece of it.
But let's pull back the veil and see where many Israelis really stand. On a profound emotional level, a racist attitude towards anything Arab has arisen and evolved. It is mixture of contempt for manifestations of backwardness, derision of the [Arab] mentality, the [Arab] view of women, some phenomena like family honor and revenge, a fear of the cruelty ascribed to Arabs, and a rejection of Arab culture and behavior (with the exception of hummus and shwarma). Under the Western cultural wrapping lie deep wells of anti-Arab racist sentiment. In salons on Saturday night, on football fields, and in the markets, deep-seated, racist opinions are repeated: “they're murderers with no morals,” “they kill their daughters and take revenge,” “terrorism is their policy,” “you can't believe a word they say,” and “the agreements they sign aren't worth the paper they're written on.” In other words, “opinions” that bring to mind the anti-Semitic Der Sturmer. Sometimes these are far more serious. In live television coverage at sites of recent terrorist attacks, harsh expressions can be heard, like “death to the Arabs” and “the only good Arab is a dead Arab.” The hatred felt towards certain people—terrorists, for example—turns into racism as the hatred is directed at an entire people. Even more difficult is that many Israelis have begun to think in terms of the definite article—“the Arabs”—that is, Arabs, all of them, are one and the same.
What is the emotional, intellectual reality in which many Israelis are raised? That thin layer of liberal enlightenment has been sorely damaged over the last three years of the current intifada. And as if to justify the hatred and hidden fears of many Israelis, Palestinian strategy has focused on an intensive campaign of terrorism against civilians, women, and children, which only adds a new wound to the collective Jewish memory. The Arabs inherit the place of the Cossacks, Arafat becomes Khmelnitski, and the imams and ayatollahs become the priests of the Inquisition.
The joy that prevails on the Arab street after every murder operation gives the sense of a general, violent hatred that supports terrorism. But there is nothing that can justify manifestations of racism in Jewish society. A people who have tasted the consequences of racism to the point of genocide cannot allow itself to behave the same way. What will they say about us? What will they say about our future? Can we move backwards? Everyone must ask these questions of himself. But above all, we must admit that we are treading a dangerous path.

By: Shmuel Gordon
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Richard Haut

Shmuel

a year ago or slightly more a young Jewish child - a little girl - was severely injured by a suicide bomb. She died, and her parents - Israeli Jewish parents - gave permission for her organs to be used to save the life of a Palestinian child.

That's Jewish. That's real Jewish.

Have you been chased by Cossacks ? Have I ? How many of us have - ourselves, as people of today - been attacked by SA thugs ? There are attempts to say that countries like France or Germany or even the Britain of today are as antisemitic as they were in the 1930's and 1940's. It is simply not true. One skinhead being abusive does not make a nation antisemitic, but say it too often and it becomes those who themselves say it who are the racists.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by saab95

Richard Haut wrote:
Curiously Sharon may lose the Gaza vote.


No.

It is Arafat who has to fear for such vote; isn't Gaza a part of the Authority, excpet for the few settlements there?

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Bush, with Sharon, is pissing on the dead of the Holocaust.

America is a democracy and if the people do not stop their vigilante KKK President, then the world will have to presume that they support him.


I don't agree with you on many counts.

I recommend you research Resolution 181 which proposed to give Arabs an equivalent share of land, and that you consider that the current Israeli occupation happened in 1967 due to their beating back a magnanimous threat by the Arab states at that time.

Since then, the Golan Heights went back to Syria.

The Palestinian cause would be greatly enhanced if those truly interested in peace and non-supportive of the terrorists would come forward and negotiate and take back their land from the terrorist gangsters Arafat, and his counterparts in Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Al Fatah, Al Aqsa Brigade, and Hezbollah.

I fully agree with Sharon's posture NOT to negotiate with the terrorist gangsters.

You, as a law abiding citizen, would NOT negotiate with criminals, so why should Sharon?

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Richard Haut

The possibility that Sharon could lose the Gaza vote was news to me - news published in Haaretz. (They seemed to think that even Netanyahu was opposed to it).

That's what they said. Whether or not it is realistic, I don't know - but it was clearly stated in the Israeli press.

As for settling occupied land, it is international law that says that it is not legal, not me.

Your ugly racial stereotyping of Palestinians should be seen in the context of the terrible malnutrition among Palestinian children. Proud of the stopping of even emergency food aid to Gaza throughout most of April were you ? Just remember that the deliberate use of starvation is the oldest form of terrorism known to man - so be careful that you understand whom you are accusing of being terrorists.

Where I do agree with you is that those concerned with peace should indeed step in and enforce the rule of law - on both sides.

I suggest that you read the following from the Guardian:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1195568,00.html

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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2004 12:28 am    Post subject: re Reply with quoteFind all posts by hanihamad

saab95 where r u from??? the way I see it is that israelies started this thing 100 years ago with terrorism so why on earth should arafat , or yassin , or rantisi negotiate with israel a state founded and built upon terrorism they died true but their legacy lives on. what do you call a fight between man and apache, stone and machine gun, fist and tank, If you dont see it as bravery and just cause on the palestinian part and cowardice on the israeli part then I should remind you of the pictures of israelis breaking the bones of palestinian childrin who threw stones at them, also occupying land that doesn't belong to them in egypt syria"which has never received back its golan heights unlike you said" they were kicked out of egypt in 1973, 6 years later.

what kind of a joke is the invention called the security council not to condemn this racist effort

http://www.aad-online.org/Englishsite/Englinks/aad8/19/pne2.htm

also check out this picture
http://www.aad-online.org/ani%20pho/Ags.jpg


http://www.aad-online.org/Englishsite/mainen.htm

Hani Hamad
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PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2004 3:55 pm    Post subject: Re: re Reply with quoteFind all posts by saab95

hanihamad wrote:
saab95 where r u from???


America.

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the way I see it is that israelies started this thing 100 years ago with terrorism so why on earth should arafat , or yassin , or rantisi negotiate with israel a state founded and built upon terrorism they died true but their legacy lives on. what do you call a fight between man and apache, stone and machine gun, fist and tank, If you dont see it as bravery and just cause on the palestinian part and cowardice on the israeli part then I should remind you of the pictures of israelis breaking the bones of palestinian childrin who threw stones at them, also occupying land that doesn't belong to them in egypt syria"which has never received back its golan heights unlike you said" they were kicked out of egypt in 1973, 6 years later.


That's your opinion. I beg to differ.

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what kind of a joke is the invention called the security council not to condemn this racist effort


The current Security Council has repeatedly condemned Israel for various acts of defense it has done against terrorism. AFAIC, Israel and Palestine are in a war.

My opinion- there are Palestinians who are not interested in living under the tyranny of Arafat, who genuinely want peace. Get them together to negotiate with the Israelis.

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PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2004 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Richard Haut

From the BBC, 23rd. May 2004:

"Referring to the TV picture (of an old Palestinian woman picking through the rubbish of her demolished home), Mr Lapid said he was "talking about an old woman crouching on all fours, searching for her medicines in the ruins of her house and that she made me think of my grandmother".

"I said that if we carry on like this, we will be expelled from the United Nations and those responsible will stand trial at The Hague," Mr Lapid told Israel radio."

Israeli Justice Minister Lapid is a Holocaust survivor, and his grandmother died in Auschwitz.

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PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2004 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by hanihamad

saab where are you from richard I read that article here's the link if saab or whoever wants to check it out http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3740649.stm
you should also check this out
http://www.right-thoughts.us/comments.php?id=903_0_1_0_C
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quoteFind all posts by Richard Haut

jeering at a dead man and lying to his people, Donald ?

you have made it 100% clear that you consider all Palestinians to be "terrorists", so your good wishes are as decent and honest as the wishes given to Jews by the SS about resettling in the east.

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