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Ed Ziomek
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 Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 7:10 pm Post subject: Can America be "Just one of the Team?" |
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I had a great conversation today about the Iraq events of the last week, and the long term implications.
And Blair resigned, with Olmert is under pressure. Mushareff is under pressure. Turkey is under pressure. The world is changing, can America change with it?
It seems like every aim and ambition of the United States, the opposite consequence has taken place. Or has it?
Net-net of it all is that the alleged high culture of America, the sometimes deserved prestige of America in the world, of the post World War 2 pride in being the world saviour, the ficticious best and brightest, the self annointed policemen of the world... It is over, and will not be regained soon, if ever at all. America's moment in the sun may have been "adjusted".
The rest of the world is racing past us. China is a megapower, deservedly so, and brilliant too. And, yes, America just handed the industrial manufacturing family jewels to them...what a goldmine that was! In the conversation I had, I was told Westinghouse runs a science fair every year in America, and 50,000 wannabe high school submissions are received. In China, a similar event takes place, with 5,000,000 submissions! These are serious, peaceful competitors!
India/Pakistan. Heart of genius. Some Indian programmers have it down so neatly, that when a major American corporation asks an Indian programmer here in the US, "How fast can YOU have it done?" ...what the Americans may not know is that the the entire job may be electronically sent to India for teams of PHds to code up, sent back in an astonishing week or two...and generally wonderful results. Outsourcers outsourcing, and we don't have a clue. Amazing!
Rumor has it that on the financial business side, due to the new restrictive Sarbanes-Oxley Act, which contains harsh criminal penalties for Boards of Directors whose employees commit criminal acts, financial businesses are moving out of the United States and towards London and Europe. Is this true?
Europe is strong financially with the Euro, is a self contained power -albeit with social problems, yes, but is economically challenging American interests around the world. And why shouldn't they?
Conclusion: The Iraq/Afghanistan debacle is crippling America.
Can America accept "being asked to leave"?
Can America accept NOT being the glorified Number 1?
Can America be a team player among equals?
Can America accept "time on the bench" when the first team takes the court?
Can America accept the success and prosperity of other regions of the world, who are economically competing with us?
Can America accept the inevitable scientific and engineering accomplishments of others, such as nuclear advancements of Iran and North Korea?
And can America truly broker a sincere, honest, fair resolution among the Palestinians and Israelis?
I say the answer is ABSOLUTELY YES, in a new, changed America. Can we look past the arrogance of the our past...and realize, there is no such thing as "being number 1", never was!
Rich, what sayest thou?[/b]
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nobody wins unless everybody wins and for this to happen Bush and his accomplices need to be held accountable for their crimes.
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| Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 11:32 am Post subject: |
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What do I think Ed ?
I think that harsh crimes need harsh punishments.
The Sarbanes-Oxley Act is a very fine piece of legislation - and essential. If Directors do not want to face stiff penalties, then they should behave themselves. As the old British saying puts it: if you can't do the time, don't do the crime.
Within my lifetime, the motto of the City of London was "my word is my bond". It is several years since Don Cruickshank, appointed to look at Britain's financial sector, described it as a "culture of corruption".
America's choice is between Sarbanes-Oxley and the likes of Bush, Cheney, Wolfowiz, Bolton, Feith, Rice .....
But there is no real choice.
Sure Blair has resigned - but he hasn't gone yet.
Time is running out and Bush and Cheney know it only too well.
I have no idea what will happen. I can only hope that the Neo-Con freaks carry on squabbling and denouncing each other.
It is reported that another major escalation (such as against Iran) could bring something that America does not expect: a military revolt.
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oh we actually hint to it in literature "Frag your officer", brings back memories of the real heroes of Viet Nam.
there are near 30,000 us troops who have deserted according the the air forces own numbers and every military dressed person can't walk the streets in my city with out being catcalled to defect.
we educate the kids at HS's about all the lies professional salesmen aka recruiters spew. PTSD, DU, homlessless, lack of edu opts ect. alternative opportunities
www.arizonacrc.org
check us out, print some of the Opt out forms give them to kids to get off the recruiters harassment lists (the biggest database that has ever existed). No child left behind is a sham its more like no child left un-recruited and the especially target the poor.
it is very telling that the bonuses for the troops in Iraq this year are 8 billion dollars i believe i read, they are basically fighting for their own selfish self interest y you see so many racist videos on you tubes that troops aka war criminals upload. no wonder this week the military decided the cut off the military from 13 social network websites.
as a troop of the usa military it is their moral duty to defend the constitution and that this president has violated that constitution more times that can be counted they are within full legal right to remove him from office so your idea of a military revolt is actually what the usa constitution and law call for and military people i have talked to know this full well but again they are more interested in their pocketbook and "career"
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Ed Ziomek
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| Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 2:25 pm Post subject: Frag? No. |
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First of all, any references to fragging brings chills in me.
Military revolt, yes I could see it - maybe, in an orderly way, prescribed way, as in refusing to obey an illegal order, such as shooting civilians.
I go the other way. I think that some form of military service or peace time alternative should be mandatory for everyone. And if they are peace loving persons like myself, they would bear witness to the rights and wrongs that are being done in our foreign escapades, as well as understand Americans from all walks of life.
I am changing in my 1000% attitude towards Bush being wrong, and his cabal acting in a criminal way, or abusive posture towards Congress and foreign nations. Yes, very-very wrong they were...but....
He didn't do it alone. He had Democratic help, as he still does. The good people of the United States voted him twice into office. And we voted for Senators and Congressmen who supported him, regardless of party.
Now are those same persons revolting, finally? Yes.
Slower than I want? Yes.
And are several military generals standing up and protesting? Yes, like I have never seen before, ever.
These are reasons we need a healing personality as our next leader, bring us all back together.
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| Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 11:09 am Post subject: |
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Both Elections are proved stolen watch movie American Black Out.
We need a next leader who does not say things like "some people say moral judgment is not the right thing to do, I disagree - Bush", and that need is for peace awareness and reconciliation.
Ron Paul or Dennis Kucinich are the only 2 i think would do. The rest are trapped by the big money of military industrial complex and therefor too fascist.
Every military personal who is not defecting or deserting or standing up to Bush and his cabal for violating the constitution they signed up to defend is complicit with war crimes.
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| Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 8:28 pm Post subject: Choosing Good Poisons over Terrible Poisons...? |
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Antisthenes, we finally disagree, but you have every right to state your opinion, which is what America is all about. God Bless you for your peaceful intentions.
Persons serve in the military for heroic, patriotic, and honorable reasons, and overwhelmingly do an integrity job, with the highest moral standards. And they obey orders, for strategic maneuvers that make no sense from their position, but they obey orders anyways. They are the lowest end of the food chain, with almost no powers whatsoever. Being asked the impossible job, God Bless them too for doing what they can!
But there is a huge development going on right now. Muqtada al-Sadr wants America out right now. He is calling for conciliation with the Sunnis. He might be the best of all evils for America, who knows.
There comes a point in time, and we are long past that point, where America must choose its poison. Good poison, Bad poison, or Terrible poison.
The American Senate voted 80 to 14 in favor of the $95 billion Iraqi war funding proposal. That is a mandate to continue this tragedy, in my book, and may cost 1000 more American lives, and 10,000 more Iraqi lives. Is it any coincidence that just after that vote, America started Naval war maneuvers in the Gulf with its aircraft carriers? Am I imagining things or have we ratcheted up the tensions?
I say the cheaper proposal is taking the "Good poison", Muqtada al-Sadr in some power position. He is an Al Capone. He is a tyrant. He has death squads who most probably killed Americans. He wants America to leave today, not tomorrow. He has militias. He supports al-Maliki as his own puppet. He supports ties with Iran. He hates Israel. So he represents a Poison solution, on top of rancid, on top of dictatorship!
But he will stabilize the country, brutally perhaps without our presence.
I am leaning towards... I can deal with it. "Muqtada, Iraq is all yours."
First news item....from Ravi Nessman... Associated Press...
Al-Sadr Reappears, says US must leave....
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070526/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_070525152080
Second news item, from today's NY Post online....a reprint from October 2006...Ralph Peters of the Economist...
Kill Muqtada Now
http://www.nypost.com/seven/10262006/postopinion/postopinion.htm
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Which leads me to: Iraq had the leader they deserved/needed/couldn't escape BEFORE we invaded. And they'll have another after we leave. Net gain: zero. Net loss (besides many lives on both sides): trillions in present and future American dollars -- among other things.
Bush and Co are madmen.
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| Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 5:59 am Post subject: Everyone lost on this, together... |
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SDR...Excellent point. Net gain, zero??? Negative 2 trillion dollars in payouts for the next 40 years, 1 million dead now and in residuals... a horrible catastrophe.
Bush and crew, madmen-YES!... and the Senate voted 80-14-4 to support him in the funding bill, so it is no longer Bush's war, it is America's war. I am with the 14, but, 80 US Senators are not all crazy! What do they know that we don't? What do they see that we don't?
"Negotiating talks" with Iran over the weekend...this is wonderful news among the carnage.
Unconfirmed, heard it on the street..."George Bush has spent more and increased the deficit more than all previous administrations combined."
and..."George Bush mentioned that he may plan troop withdrawals if the 'surge' is not working". What a profound concept!
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sadly the madmen don't know when to stop - apparently the US Government via Elliot Abrams and with the Saudis have had the brilliant idea of arming Sunni extremist militia.
then, when the already failed surge fails, they can blame the Shia and especially Iran.
so that means that two of the three main ethnic groups now have their extremists backed by the US (Kurdish terrorists and the Sunni). What sort of people are Sunni extremists ? Osama bin Laden.
immediately after the talks with Iran, Bush was spewing threats at them.
now we have the situation of Syria and Iran continuing, understandably, to consider that they may be attacked, terrorists being backed by the US in order to stop the insurgency (though the thinking is lost on me), Cheney and his mob howling for an Israeli attack on Iran, Iran threatening Israel not to attack Lebanon (where US weapons may just possibly be involved on BOTH sides), and the Turkish Generals are massing troops on their border with Iraq preparatory to moving into Iraq to stop the Kurds.
and in Britain Blair has resigned but not gone, but his successor, the dreary Mr. Brown, has little alternative to withdraw British troops from Iraq, and quickly. So the Guardian, in a disgraceful article, tells us that Iran is waging a war on the US and UK by its unproven 'backing' of insurgents.
France's new President however tells America how much he loves them, and the American Government and the Neo-Cons are ecstatic (even Ann Coulter is eating croissants - really, she is). What the Neo-Cons have failed to grasp is that Sarkozy is of Hungarian origin, and there is a famous saying about politics from that part of the world: "kiss the hand that you cannot bite".
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It was Elliot Abrams' first go-round, in the Reagan misadministration, that marked the awakening of my political ire. Like a bad penny, he's back.
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There is a fascinating article on the Wayne Madsen Report, tracing the origins of the Neo-Con cabal back to the 1970's.
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/
| Quote: | May 28-29, 2007 -- Neo-con cabal born in treason in the late 1970s. Lying, massive fraud, illegal weapons smuggling, forged documents . . . all sound like a description of the lead-up to the war in Iraq. However, this same situation existed in the late 1970s. Some of the same players who got this nation into the bloody quagmire of Iraq also criminally conspired to bring down the administration of President Jimmy Carter. President Carter's indignation about the neo-cons -- their blind support for Israel, their whittling away of our Constitution, our neo-con foreign policy -- is rooted in the treason they committed against the United States during his administration. There is no statute of limitations on treason and the neo-cons should face double barrel treason charges from incidents a generation apart.
The neo-con attacks on President Carter were planned in the office of the late Democratic Senator from Washington, Henry "Scoop" Jackson. Jackson was the Joe Lieberman of his day -- more concerned about representing the interests of a defense contractor, Boeing (Lieberman represents the interests of General Dynamics), and the expansionists and military-intelligence complex of Israel (as does Lieberman), than in doing what was best for America. Jackson's treason against the United States is honored today in Britain, where the Henry Jackson Society pushes the neo-con agenda in the British Parliament and media. Jackson, his chief assistant, Richard Perle, and foreign and defense policy aides Frank Gaffney, William Kristol, Douglas Feith, and Elliott Abrams, as well as unofficial Jackson adviser Paul Wolfowitz, did everything possible to derail U.S.-Soviet detente and arms limitation treaties, including the Strategic Arms Limitation Treaty (SALT II).
Jackson and Perle helped initiate sanctions against the USSR, at the expense of American farmers, with the help of Ohio Democratic Rep. Charles Vanik (the Jackson-Vanik sanctions act). Jackson's Coalition for a Democratic Majority (CDM) was the "Democratic Leadership Council" of its time. CDM worked tirelessly to damage President Carter and among its ranks were, in addition to Jackson, Texas Democratic Senator Lloyd Bentsen, Oklahoma Senator David Boren, Georgia Senator Sam Nunn, Louisiana Senator J. Bennett Johnston, Ben Wattenberg, Irving Kristol, Max Kampelman, Richard Pipes, John Roche, Samuel Huntington, and James Woolsey. In 1976, the CDM helped form the Committee on the Present Danger, reactivated in 2004 by Lieberman, Arizona Republican Senator Jon Kyl, Laurie Mylroie, Norman Podhoretz, Frank Gaffney, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), Boeing, the American Enterprise Institute, and the Heritage Foundation.
The treason committed by these neo-cons against the Carter administration centered on machinations in Rome (Rome was also at the center of the later conspiracy to drive the United States into war in Iraq). Arch neo-con and foreign policy adviser to Karl Rove, Michael Ledeen, served as the Rome correspondent for The New Republic from 1975 to 1977 and a journalist for the right-wing Milan newspaper Il Giornale. In Rome, Ledeen cultivated close ties with neo-fascist groups.
Jackson's and his staffs' first documented case of treason against the United States concerned the leak to Jackson and Perle in 1978 of a Top Secret CIA report on the SALT talks by CIA nuclear weapons analyst Daniel S. Sullivan. Sullivan, believing the Soviets deceived the U.S. in the SALT talks, took it upon himself to pass Top Secret information to Jackson and his band of neo-cons. However, rather than being prosecuted, Sullivan was permitted to resign due to "insubordination" and not for illegally passing classified information to unauthorized persons. Sullivan later joined the staff of Senator Bentsen and received another Top Secret clearance as a member of Bentsen's staff.
However, the leak of the Top Secret SALT CIA document to Jackson may not have been the only leak to have taken place. In February 2005, the Everett (WA) Herald reported that five federal agents from the Departments of Defense and Energy removed several documents from the archived papers of Jackson housed at the University of Washington's Suzzallo-Allen Library. The seized documents were re-classified by the government. The retention by Jackson and his staff of top secret documents is reminiscent of the Larry Franklin-AIPAC case, in which Franklin, opposed to U.S. policy on Iran, passed a number of classified CIA documents to AIPAC and the Israeli embassy's Mossad station in Washington.
Rather than being treated as the traitor he was, Jackson is today lauded by Democrats of various political stripes. His ideological descendants are at the core of the Republican pre-emptive strike foreign policy construct.
In 1976, two years after Secretary of State Henry Kissinger threatened then-Italian Foreign Minister Aldo Moro about forming a coalition with the Communists, Jackson, on a trip to Italy, issued a similar warning to Moro. In Phillip Willan's Puppetmasters, Moro's widow recounted Kissinger's warning, which was undoubtedly echoed by Jackson: "You must abandon your policy of bringing all the political forces in your country into direct collaboration . . . or you will pay dearly for it." Moro was kidnapped for 55 days by the so-called Red Brigades, who were later found to be in the service of Italian fascists, Italian intelligence, the P-2 Masonic Lodge, a parallel SID [Italian Defense Intelligence Service], and the CIA. Some of these same elements would be behind the infamous Niger yellowcake forgeries used by the neo-cons to prove the case for war against Iraq.
The same neo-con network would transform Mehmet Ali Agca, the would-be assassin of Pope John Paul II, from a right-wing member of the Turkish Gray Wolves to a Communist in the employ of the KGB and Bulgarian intelligence. The Judith Miller-like journalist in those days who spun the story about Agca's Soviet Bloc connections was Claire Sterling, whose disinformation was quickly picked up by The Reader's Digest, New York Times, NBC News, and other mainstream media outlets. Sterling's fellow disinformation journalist was Ledeen.
Agca told a fantasy story about his orders to kill the Pope coming from a Bulgarian "control officer" and that he had also been involved in a plot to kill Polish Solidarity leader Lech Walesa, Tunisian President Habib Bourguiba, and Malta's Prime Minister Dom Mintoff. In fact, there was a plot to overthrow and possibly kill Mintoff, Allende-style, but it was being crafted by U.S. Navy intelligence in conjunction with the neo-fascist and renegade Italian intelligence elements in Rome. The U.S. Navy wanted to overthrow Mintoff to gain access to its former NATO base on the island nation off the Libyan coast. Bourguiba was not popular with the neo-cons because he allowed Yasir Arafat's Palestine Liberation Organization to maintain its headquarters-in-exile in Tunis.
The Turkish Gray Wolves and the pan-Turkic National Action Party (NAP) made common cause with the neo-cons and their Israeli friends. The Wolves and the NAP considered the peoples of Soviet Central Asia to be "captive Turks." The Turkish right-wing nationalists foresaw a nuclear-armed Turkey extending from Thrace to the central Asian steppes. The anti-Soviet concordat between the Turkish right (and the Turkish intelligence agency MIT) and the neo-cons in America, Israel, and Italy would later serve as a basis for the political alliance between AIPAC and the American Turkish Council.
Ledeen operated a right-wing cell in Rome that included Francesco Pazienza, an Italian businessman linked to P-2, Italian SISMI military intelligence chief General Giuseppe Santovito, and the mafia; P-2 "Venerable Master" Licio Gelli; and Banco Ambrosiano chief Roberto Calvi (later murdered Masonic ritual-style in London on Blackfriar's Bridge). Ledeen provided a conduit between this group and Ronald Reagan's Secretary of State Alexander Haig.
In an attempt to embarrass President Carter during the 1980 presidential race, Santovito, Pazienza, and Ledeen conspired to entrap Bill Carter, the president's brother, into a business relationship with Libyan leader Muammar Qaddafi. La Repubblica reported on the Italian investigation into the conspiracy:
"The scandalous material was gathered mostly by Pazienza and by his American friend Michael Ledeen . . . Pazienza availed himself of SISMI both for the use of some secret agents and for the expenses of organizing the scandalous plan. It seems that the organizers got a huge payoff for "Billygate." Moreover, Santovito and Pazienza got great advantage in return from American officials, in fact, may have been helped in other obscure affairs. The "Billygate" operation did not come from SISMI's institutionally mandated task, and for that reason Judge Sica brought charges of pursuing private interests through official activities." [Translated in Diana Johnstone, "The Ledeen Connection," In These Times, Sept. 8-14, 1982].
Rather than being charged and prosecuted for treason against the United States, Ledeen was rewarded with a consulting job for the State Department and Pentagon in the Reagan administration, a position from which he was free to continue his anti-American activities with fellow traitors from the Henry Jackson staff.
While the traitors in the Washington office of Jackson and Ledeen in Rome were conspiring against President Carter, George H. W. Bush, Carter National Security Council staffer Robert Gates, and William Casey criminally conspired with the Ayatollah Khomeini's government to keep 52 hostages held in Tehran captive in return for a shipment of weapons. A meeting between Casey, Gates, and Bush and Iranian agents was held in Paris on October 19, 1980, in what became known as the "October Surprise." The deal was worked out using the auspices of the Sun Shipyard in Chester, PA, which had a close link to the CIA since the shipyard's building of the Soviet submarine raising ship, SS Glomar Explorer, under cover provided by Howard Hughes' Summa Corporation, in 1973. As WMR has previously reported, the CIA arranged a pre-election weapons shipment, unknown to President Carter, to Iran on the SS Poet from Chester, PA to Iran. The Poet was later disposed of along with its American crew by U.S. intelligence or those in its service. And what magazine later debunked the "October Surprise" story of a Bush-Casey treasonous deal with Iran? None other than Ledeen's old employer, The New Republic. |
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| Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 7:57 pm Post subject: Bush Sr. + Casey, Bush Sr. + Colby, Bush-2 and Ashcroft? |
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Echos of the "chilly war", the internal politics of Washington, where you dig three feet and find 3 bodies, dig 5 feet and get 50 bodies?
William Casey, head of the CIA under Reagan as you mentioned, keeper of all the secrets,.... died on the operating table during brain surgery! Walter Reed was it?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Casey
William Colby, head of the CIA 73-75, who was direct, contrite with Congress about VietNam events, was replaced by Bush Senior back in 75, died in 95, allegedly falling out of a canoe? And wasn't '95 the year that Clinton was fighting all the right-wing sabotage events on his Presidency? Oh, yes, I made that up, sorry! 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Colby
"Colby's tenure as DCI, which lasted two and a half tumultuous years, was overshadowed by the Church and Pike congressional investigations into alleged U.S. intelligence malfeasance over the preceding twenty-five years, including 1975, the so-called "Year of Intelligence." Colby cooperated, not out of a desire for major reforms, but in the belief that the actual scope of such misdeeds--encapsulated in the so-called "Family Jewels"--was not great enough to cause lasting damage to the CIA's reputation. Colby also believed that the CIA had a moral and practical obligation to cooperate with the Congress and demonstrate that the CIA was accountable to the Constitution. This caused a major rift within the CIA ranks, with many old-line officers such as former DCI Richard Helms believing that the CIA should have resisted congressional intrusion......
Colby also focused on internal reforms within the CIA and the Intelligence Community. He attempted to modernize what he believed to be some out-of-date structures and practices, including by disbanding the Board of National Estimates and replacing it with the National Intelligence Council.
President Ford, advised by Henry Kissinger and others concerned by Colby's controversial openness to Congress and distance from the White House, replaced Colby late in 1975 with George H. W. Bush during the so called "Halloween Massacre" in which Secretary of Defense Schlesinger was also replaced (by Donald Rumsfeld). Colby was offered the position of U.S. Permanent Representative to NATO but turned it down."
And then we have Ashcroft, in serious condition after a gallstone operation, ---they can be dangerous, you know, in Washington.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2004-03-09-ashcroft-surgery_x.htm
"Abell said Ashcroft suffered from an especially severe form of gallstone pancreatitis, caused by a gallstone blocking the passage that leads from the pancreas to the beginning of the small intestine.
[i]The attorney general's case was so severe, Abell said, that time was needed before surgery to allow inflammation to subside so that he could withstand the operation. Ashcroft was admitted to the hospital Thursday evening complaining of abdominal pain."
Politicians, on the wrong side of the opinion? Oooops!? No pattern here, is there? Nahhh.
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| Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:26 pm Post subject: While I slept... the White House Deputized itself... |
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On May 9, 2007, somewhere between Paris Hilton's escapades, or Lindsay Lohans bust, or was it gorgeous Janet Jackson's again, the White House snuck through...National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive which created a new office/position of National Continuity Coordinator.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/05/20070509-12.html
You could read this directive on one level and say... "What a great idea, we should have preparedness in the event of disasters."
Or if you read it closer, you would find troubling items which make no sense other than the possibility that the Executive Branch created a self contained investigative unit, on a small scale parallel with the FBI, CIA, DIA, NSA, etc. etc. The Executive Branch has now OFFICIALLY Deputized itself, and permitted itself investigative functions in the noble aim of preventing future disasters, terror strikes, etc.
Examples of the vague, confusing, open-ended phrases used in the Directive are as follows....
"Implementation Actions
(e) Protecting against threats to the homeland and bringing to justice perpetrators of crimes or attacks against the United States or its people, property, or interests; "
Question: Who defines what those "interests" are? What is considered an "attack", such as a written criticism against President Bush on a thread like this?
Answer: Interests can be defined as ...Everything the Executive Branch decides on a whim!?
"(b) Succession orders and pre-planned devolution of authorities that ensure the emergency delegation of authority must be planned and documented in advance in accordance with applicable law;
(c) Vital resources, facilities, and records must be safeguarded, and official access to them must be provided; "
No mention of subpoenas or warrants are mentioned. Does this mean this Executive Directive circumvents the Judicial "Search and Seizure", and "Due Process Rights" of the last 232 years?
And correct me if I am wrong, according to the verbiage, I may not be able to countersue if I am the target of such whimsical investigations...
(21) "This directive:...
(c) Is not intended to, and does not, create any rights or benefits, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by a party against the United States, its agencies, instrumentalities, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person."
Let me break it down....
"This directive....does not create any rights...enforceable at law....by a party against the United States."
So the Karl Roves and Dick Cheneys, acting on behalf of the Executive Branch, are now legally covered for all investigations they initiate, during this "War on Terror" which is a National Emergency!
note...I am sharing this information from a History Channel thread...
NATIONAL SECURITY PRESIDENTIAL DIRECTIVE 5/9/07
http://boards.historychannel.com/thread.jspa?threadID=800023611&start=0
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Richard Haut
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One of the most intriguing features of the barrage of lies and media deceptions to which we have all been subjected is that many people are beginning to look even further back.
Israeli involvement with the hijackers at Entebbe. Nasty, but not surprising.
What is curious about this story is that it is printed in the very staid Daily Telegraph and its source is the ultra-establishment British Foreign Office.
History may not remember the fabricated term "Al-Queda", but it will certainly have much to say about "Shin Bet".
| Quote: | Israeli agents 'helped Entebbe hijackers'
By Peter Day
Last Updated: 2:29am BST 02/06/2007
An extraordinary claim that Israeli intelligence may have had a hand in an airline hijacking before sending in commandos to rescue the hostages at Entebbe was made to the Foreign Office.
It came via David Colvin, the first secretary at the British embassy in Paris, according to a newly released National Archives file.
He heard it from a contact in the Euro-Arab Parliamentary Association three days after the Air France flight from Tel Aviv to Paris was seized in mid-air by Palestinians and German terrorists on June 27, 1976.
Mr Colvin told his superiors that his source suggested that the attack was carried out by the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine with help from the Israeli Security Service, the Shin Bet.
It was designed to torpedo the rival Palestine Liberation Organisation's standing in France and to prevent what they saw as a growing rapprochement between the PLO and the Americans.
''My contact said that the PFLP had attracted all sorts of wild elements, some of whom had been planted by the Israelis,'' Mr Colvin added. The message was received without comment by the Foreign Office but later officials recorded that a journalist from the Liverpool Post, Leo Murray, had also told them that a splinter group of PFLP was planning a series of spectacular incidents to disrupt contacts between the PLO leader Yasser Arafat and the US.
An official noted: 'If, as Mr Murray's sources allege, the aim of the Entebbe hijacking was to prevent the development of relations between Arafat and the West, and Arafat knew this, it would provide another motive for Arafat's recent approach to the French in Cairo warning us of further attacks.''
Most of the file is taken up with Foreign Office attempts to distance itself from the Israeli raid while privately admitting that the Israelis were probably justified in sending their troops into President Idi Amin's Uganda.
Frank Wheeler, the first secretary, reported that there was abundant evidence of Ugandan collaboration with the hijackers. Palestinians had been brought from Mogadishu in President Amin's private jet to join the hijackers, according to the file. |
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/06/01/nhijack01.xml
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