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Donald
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| Quote: | | ...they are pulling out... |
Not so fast she said RH....and not according to GWB....maybe come September....along with the USA.
| Quote: | | others have a few troops there while they take steps to defend themselves against you |
Which and defend for why? OK, the mad mullahs of Iran might be pulling out to defend themselves....I give you that one. |
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Richard Haut
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| Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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two newer bits of news about the shooting of the Italians:
1. the American military stopped two Italian police investigators from seeing the car
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2. the Italian car was on a US-controlled security route used by diplomatic staff - so they had to have already passed through several US checkpoints. They were not on the open road descibed by the US at all.
Since it is just a few days since the anniversary of the murder of Archbishop Oscar Romero on 24th March 1980, perhaps it is worth remembering just how close to terrorism the Salvador Option really was and remains.
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Architorture
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so now they supposedly weren't on the baghdag highway??? supposedly there is only one road to the airport... and i haven't seen anyone claim they weren't on their way to the airport... and i think you have to admit that 'american controlled' highways doesn't mean much in terms of what kind of violence or attacks happen on those highways...
as for several other checkpoints... don't you think they would have mentioned that right in the beginning had that been the case? |
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Richard Haut
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That they had been through US checkpoints had already been stated a number of times.
It is your military that is obstructing investigation.
It no longer matters. Nations are moving away from you - even Israel.
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| Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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the story broke on the pages of playboy magazine eh?
i haven't seen much in the news in way of statements from her or the others in the vehicle...has there been much on the other side of the pond... |
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Richard Haut
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Suzanne Goldberg is the US correspondent of the Guardian - it was the initial reports of this particular series of rapes that were apparently reported in Playboy.
You do not want to know what people in Europe think about it.
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| Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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i know she isn't the reported for playboy... but the fact that the story broke in playboy is sort of interesting... although i do believe that larry flint want to have an imbedded reported during the invasion for hustler...so who knows...
i'm not asking about what europeans think about it... i'm asking if she or the others who were in the vehicle have released any more statements that might shed light on the situation...or have they all clammed up now about specifics and are just sticking to rhetoric |
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Richard Haut
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The others in the car were government employees I believe, so have had to keep quiet, but Sgrena is starting to give interviews - and what she says will be believed.
The Italian Foreign Minister tried to warn against antiamericanism. He tried, but I very much doubt that he succeeded.
The murder of Nicola Calipari was a defining moment in Italy.
Bush may find that his dealings with some of the heavyweights among Italian-Americans have become difficult - or worse.
As for reporting by Playboy or Hustler - why not, when the so-called respectable news sources are so often merely hireling mouthpieces. When I was a kid I had a wonderful book about the newspapers of the old American West. Fantastic numbers of little newspapers run by grumpy proprietor-editors. The days of mass-media corporates may be numbered.
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SDR
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| Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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How will honest men retake ownership of the media? Or of business in general, or of government? Will a just and vengeful God smite them in his wrath?
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Richard Haut
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| Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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a just and vengeful God ?
only two ways that I can see: the first is that people wake up to what is really happening and, albeit not easily, drive out the barbarians. The credibility of the mainstream media will be seriously damaged by then.
unfortunately it is more likely that with swaggering fools like the Neo-Cons, a real tyrant will take over - one who uses their methods but more efficiently.
then there will be an underground press - and a very dangerous occupation it will be.
so far it is a few blogs and some very brave journalists, not all of whom have survived. And their readership ? Depressingly small.
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well i think the blogs damage themselves in that there are just SO MANY that are all saying entirely different things people find it very difficult to start using them as a main source of news...
and of course the blogs don't have your local weather on the 8's or a scrolling bar with sports scores.... |
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